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    Friday, August 25, 2006

    Pop Quiz @ Burleson Central Station...
    Wade is cranking out some of the best SBC-centric theological blog posts we've read in a long time. His latest is entitled "A Theological Triage Test," which pricks the hearts of Baptists on matters of doctrines where there is disagreement. The focus of Wade's pop quiz rests on how Baptists view other Baptists who hold different views on debatable doctrines.

    As the headmaster over here at ARB, I took the test and scored a 29.

    Take the quiz and see where you rate.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 8/25/2006 04:07:00 PM


    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Well, this is fun. I confess that I read the BF&M 2000 four years ago for the first time in order to complete requirements to be an IMB missionary. I have not read it again until today. I carefully took note of the changes made from each of the revisions and find that I still have no difficulty accepting the quidelines: Christ is the only way. I am His forever. Pastor is a guy. Fruit of the vine is the drink. Husband leads his family like Christ leads the Church. Wife is equal and submits to the Christlike leadership of her husband. Dunk the believer. (The dunking has restrictions like being on a cross and other extreme cases of last minute acceptance of Christ as Savior.) No problems for me. Oh, I scored a 30.

    We are a stiff necked, stubborn and prideful people. I simply say that if we all get off our duffs and begin to serve in any capacity, there will be little room for gritching.

    South Asia Missionary

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:05:00 AM  
    Blogger TheMDude said...

    Dear RazorPeople,
    As I read these many comments and debates I wonder how many of the SB blogosphere that respond are:
    1. Pastors with an advanced theology degree
    2. Seminary students
    3. Just normal SB members.

    Because, just because, it seems to me that most of you/us/them fall into the #1&2 catagory (I don't - I am closest to #3 but to a man on the street I would be just a normal follower of Jesus without labels or, Wade's, tinted glasses)

    Whatcha think?


    I friend of mine has designed an interesting website http://www.mostimportantthing.org/- he is another Okie like Wade.

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:40:00 AM  
    Blogger Kevin Bussey said...


    Saturday, August 26, 2006 7:39:00 AM  
    Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

    M dude,

    We know Bussey, Cousin Bart and a few others have advanced degrees. We, on the other hand, have some religious education, but otherwise don’t earn our living through Christian ministry. The thing we love is that we see many concerned laity become deeply involved in the life of the SBC, which can only be a good thing.

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:08:00 AM  
    Blogger TheMDude said...

    Well, I understand that, BUT, having a research background, I can see that most commentors are not Joe Southern Baptist. I think that what we mostly have here among most blogs is a social networking community of "Bible busters" and not average members. A guy on Marty's blog is going to go around his church and ask three questions on the BF&M to average Joe SBs and see what are the answers. So, generally from reading the blogs we can say that a large # of SBers who are "Bible Busters (pastors, sem students, guys who really dig into the Word - and may say things like KJV Forever!") and not the average pew warmers. Whatcha think?

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:54:00 AM  
    Anonymous Ben Stratton said...

    Let me examine my 25.

    The typical conservative Southern Baptist pastor or church member does not want anyone serving in Southern Baptist leadership positions who:
    1) Believes in drinking alcohol as a beverage
    2) Believes in women deacons
    3) Believes baptism is not a local church ordinance
    4) Believes in speaking in tongues in any form

    I also voted "2" on number 10. Now unfortunately the average Southern Baptist today does believe in open communion, but this is clearly goes against Scripture, our Baptist heritage, and logic. All three editions of the Baptist Faith and Message declare the Lord's Supper is only for properly baptized believers. I am of course referring to close or strict communion. If Bro. Wade had put "shared by people who are (properly baptized) believers but not members of your local church", I would have voted "3".

    Ben Stratton
    Southern Baptist Pastor in Kentucky

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:45:00 PM  
    Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

    Cummunion is for believers. and we personaly use the ESV, and the Geneva.

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:50:00 PM  
    Blogger Bryan Riley said...

    I like SAMissionary's comments. The more we live out the gospel the less we would likely sit around and debate finer points of doctrine.

    Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:01:00 PM  
    Blogger Bart Barber said...

    In my mind's eye, an MDiv is an "advanced degree." Show me another masters degree that requires four years of work. Many people have terminal degrees for less work than the average Southern Baptist pastor has put into his masters.

    Monday, August 28, 2006 2:28:00 PM  
    Blogger Mike Woodward said...


    I honestly forgot to do my BFM survey yesterday! I have since changed my methodology. I sent those 3 questions on the BFM via email to my class today. The class sample (IF they respond!) should be about 20 people ranging from ages 30-50. 1/2 of these responders will have grown up in the Baptist church. For a bit more reference, my church would be considered one of the drivers of the conservative resurgence in Missouri.

    I will publish the results on Marty's comment thread ASAP!

    Your comments about "Bible Busters" is interesting. I would call myself a seminarian wannabe. My interest in these subjects is also piqued because I'm trying to impress my IMB / Southern graduates sister and brother in law...

    Monday, August 28, 2006 3:24:00 PM  
    Blogger Mike Woodward said...

    Since Marty has a new nuclear post over at sbcoutpost...

    BFM Survey Update: 18 responded within 12 hours. Not bad! Here's the results:

    16 out of 18 -- No clue or minimal clue of what the BFM is and contains.
    2 out of 18 -- Good understanding of BFM. I hope so, they're on staff!

    The 16 that replied with no knowledge are VERY active in the ministry of our church, so they are not simply pew sitters.

    Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:25:00 AM  

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