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    Wednesday, August 09, 2006

    What translation of Bible do you use and why?

    The Geneva Bible
    (a must have in every personal library)

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 8/09/2006 09:27:00 PM


    Blogger Dave Samples said...

    I preach from the New American Standard Bible because they gave me a really nice one when I graduated from college and another one when I graduated from seminary.

    I use the New Living Translation for my personal meditative reading.

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:38:00 AM  
    Blogger Bart Barber said...

    I preach from the NASB and read from the NASB for light devotional reading. Why? Dr. Cutter at Baylor obviously favored it. He taught Greek in such a way that I can almost look at the NASB English text and know the words, tenses, forms, etc., of the underlying Greek text just from reading the NASB. Now Hebrew...that's a different story.

    I have written some software for the web site I am developing for our church. It looks into a database of sermons and superimposes certain sermon data onto an image. Anyway, for my sermon management program I use ESV because they offer the ESV text as a SOAP web service. Oh yeah, and it's free, too. If any other version is available in that format, I haven't found it.

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:52:00 AM  
    Blogger art rogers said...

    I use the Holman Christian Standard Version.

    It is the Baptist Bible and is therefore obviously has its roots easily traced through spurious groups all the way back to John the Baptist.


    Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:02:00 AM  
    Blogger Tom Bryant said...

    I use the holman also in case I want to make a run at the presidency

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:37:00 AM  
    Blogger Bryan Riley said...

    I am all over the board. I like to read both the NIV and the NKJV, but when I study I use the KJV and Strong's. I also sometimes read the NLT and the Message. With biblegateway.com I tend to hit additional versions from time to time.

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:29:00 PM  
    Blogger Kevin Bussey said...


    If it was good enough for Paul it's good enough for me! :)

    Really, NIV because it is more understandable!

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:34:00 PM  
    Anonymous TJ said...

    Working with teens, I use the NIV or NLT to teach from. Personal study, I almost always use the NKJV or NASB.
    Last summer I took our kids to CentriKid, an incredible week indeed. While there, something was mentioned about them only using the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB), to which one of the staffers pointed out, there ain't nothing like the Hard Core Southern Baptist translation!

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:53:00 PM  
    Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

    Does anyone ever whip out a copy of the Geneva Bible?

    Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:22:00 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I'll admit to being real happy when the ESV Reformation study Bible came out. I like it so much that I got my wife an ESV largeprint (she's older than I am...). I also got a thinline ESV for my briefcase that I use more than any of the others. We've both used NIV and NKJV in the past, and she still uses them in her devotions, but I've seen the light! ;)

    Friday, August 11, 2006 9:26:00 AM  
    Blogger Dorcas said...

    I read the King James Version because I own four Bibles of that version (three of which were gifts). I am not a King James only advocate, I just can't see the logic in spending money on another Bible when I already own four.

    If I were to buy another one, I'd probably want one that had really good study notes or the Greek and Hebrew interlineated, something like that.

    Friday, August 11, 2006 12:36:00 PM  
    Blogger Jamie Wootten said...

    New King...In my op it usually seems to capture the greek and hebrew a little better than others and isn't a tough read.

    Friday, August 11, 2006 2:51:00 PM  
    Blogger CB Scott said...

    I read the Cole-Patterson Study Bible published by Sword of the Lord Publishers. The study notes are very revealing.

    Friday, August 11, 2006 9:30:00 PM  
    Blogger Brother Bob said...

    I know people jokingly call it the "Baptist Bible," but I really like the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) for my daily Bible reading.
    I still use the NIV for preaching, because so many people in the pew have it, and it is easy to read.
    I also regularly refer to the KJV (because many people use it), NASB (for its accuracy), New Living Translation, New Century Version and The Message (for fresh ways of expressing the Biblical truth).

    Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:39:00 AM  
    Blogger Wes Kenney said...

    CB, where can I get me one of them??

    I like the HCSB, although I find myself in several NT examples wishing they had used a different rendering, i.e. "slave" for "doulos". Accurate, but slave has a negative connotation because of our American experience with it. I would have preferred "bondservant," or just "servant."

    I have recently switched to the ESV for preaching. Is that okay for a non-Calvinist? I hope so...

    Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:09:00 PM  
    Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

    COME ON...No takers on the Geneva Bible?

    Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:05:00 PM  
    Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

    The Geneva Bible:

    The Forgotten Translation

    When Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) became queen of England in 1553, she was determined to roll back the Reformation and reinstate Roman Catholicism. Mary had strong ties to Catholic Spain. She married Philip II of Spain and induced the English Parliament to recognize the authority of papal Rome. Mary met with a great deal of resistance from Protestant reformers in her own country. Mary showed no signs of compromise. The persecution of Protestants followed.

    The era known as the Marian Exile drove hundreds of English scholars to the Continent with little hope of ever seeing their home and friends again. God used this exodus experience to advance the Reformation. A number of English Protestant divines settled in Calvin's Geneva: Miles Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the protection of the Genevan civil authorities and the support of John Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, the Church of Geneva determined to produce an English Bible without the need for the imprimatur of either England or Rome - the Geneva Bible.

    Translation Work Begins In 1557

    The Geneva translators produced a revised New Testament in English in 1557 that was essentially a revision of Tyndale's revised and corrected 1534 edition. Much of the work was done by William Whittingham, the brother-in-law of John Calvin. The Geneva New Testament was barely off the press when work began on a revision of the entire Bible, a process that took more than two years. The new translation was checked with Theodore Beza's earlier work and the Greek text. In 1560 a complete revised Bible was published, translated according to the Hebrew and Greek, and conferred with the best translations in divers languages, and dedicated to Queen Elizabeth I. After the death of Mary, Elizabeth was crowned queen in 1558, once again moving England toward Protestantism. The Geneva Bible was finally printed in England in 1575 only after the death of Archbishop Matthew Parker, editor of the Bishop's Bible.

    England's Most Popular Bible

    While other English translations failed to capture the hearts of the reading public, the Geneva Bible was instantly popular. Between 1560 and 1644 at least 144 editions appeared. For forty years after the publication of the King James Bible, the Geneva Bible continued to be the Bible of the home. Oliver Cromwell used extracts from the Geneva Bible for his Soldier's Pocket Bible which he issued to the army.


    In 1620 the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth with their Bibles and a conviction derived from those Bibles of establishing a new nation. The Bible was not the King James Version. When James I became king of England in 1603, there were two translations of the Bible in use; the Geneva Bible was the most popular, and the Bishops' Bible was used for reading in churches.

    King James disapproved of the Geneva Bible because of its Calvinistic leanings. He also frowned on what he considered to be seditious marginal notes on key political texts. A marginal note for Exodus 1:9 indicated that the Hebrew midwives were correct in disobeying the Egyptian king's orders, and a note for 2 Chronicles 15:16 said that King Asa should have had his mother executed and not merely deposed for the crime of worshipping an idol. The King James Version of the Bible grew out of the king's distaste for these brief but potent doctrinal commentaries. He considered the marginal notes to be a political threat to his kingdom.

    At a conference at Hampton Court in 1604 with bishops and theologians, the king listened to a suggestion by the Puritan scholar John Reynolds that a new translation of the Bible was needed. Because of his distaste for the Geneva Bible, James was eager for a new translation. "I profess," he said, "I could never yet see a Bible well translated in English; but I think that, of all, that of Geneva is the worst."


    In addition to being a threat to the king of England, the Geneva Bible was outspokenly anti-Roman Catholic, as one might expect. Rome was still persecuting Protestants in the sixteenth century. Keep in mind that the English translators were exiles from a nation that was returning to the Catholic faith under a queen who was burning Protestants at the stake. The anti-Roman Catholic sentiment is most evident in the Book of Revelation: "The beast that cometh out of the bottomless pit (Rev. 11:7) is the Pope, which hath his power out of hell and cometh thence." In the end, the Geneva Bible was replaced by the King James Version, but not before it helped to settle America.

    Back in Geneva

    Calvin knew that the job of reforming a city seemingly bent on destruction would not be easy. "There is no place in the world that I fear more," he confessed. Immorality was at an all-time high, with gambling, street brawls, drunkenness, adultery, and public indecency common everywhere. But not all was dark. When he arrived on September 13, 1541, a change had come over the city. The people actually wanted him to return. The city officials bestowed honors on him and apologized for the way he had been treated. The Council members assured Calvin that they would cooperate with him to restore the Gospel and moral order. The businessmen were equally relieved to learn that Calvin might return. Calvin was overwhelmed by the outward display of affection and decided to return to Geneva. On September 16th he wrote to Farel: "Your wish is granted. I am held fast here. May God give His blessing."

    Calvin's Contributions

    Calvin continued his work of reformation, not by a heavy-handed use of the civil magistrate, but with the preaching of God's Word and the building of the Church. Church government was lacking, not only in Geneva, but all over Protestant Europe. Calvin understood that only the Church, not the State, could define orthodox theology and bring about true long-term reform. According to the Bible, the State and the Church were jurisdictionally separate. Each had its God-ordained area of jurisdiction and authority - one civil (the State) and one ecclesiastical (the Church). Even so, Calvin insisted, both Church and State were ordained by God and obligated to follow His laws as they applied to their specific appointed jurisdictions.

    Calvin's view that God reigns everywhere and over all things led him to develop the biblical idea that man can serve God in every area of life - church, civil government, education, art, music, business, law, journalism. There was no need to be a priest, a monk, or a nun to get closer to God. God is glorified in everyday work and family life. Calvin's teaching led directly to what has become known as the "Protestant work ethic." Individual initiative leads to economic productivity as Christians work out their faith in their callings before God.

    Stricken with tuberculosis, Calvin preached his last sermon on February 6, 1564. Although bedridden until his death on May 27, 1564, Calvin continued to work, extending his legacy in the lives of those who sat under his teaching.

    Thanks to the Institutes of the Christian Religion, his printed sermons, the Academy, his commentaries on nearly every book of the Bible (except the Song of Solomon and the Book of Revelation), and his pattern of Church and Civil government, Calvin shaped the thought and motivated the ideals of Protestantism in France, the Netherlands, Poland, Hungry, Scotland, and the English Puritans; many of whom settled in America. The great American historian George Bancroft stated, "He that will not honor the memory, and respect the influence of Calvin, knows but little of the origin of American liberty." The famous German historian, Leopold von Ranke, wrote, "John Calvin was the virtual founder of America." John Adams, the second president of the United States, wrote: "Let not Geneva be forgotten or despised. Religious liberty owes it most respect."

    Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:07:00 PM  
    Blogger Paul said...

    Used the NIV for 19 years. Just switched to the ESV. Much better translation for Paul's letters.

    Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:56:00 PM  

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