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    Saturday, May 13, 2006

    Facts on the FIRE TRUCK BAPTISTERY

    (Source note: This information came from one with knowledge of the inner workings of First Church Springdale's children's ministry.)

    The baptistery is very small it is behind this cut out of the small fire truck. The actual size of the baptistery is close to that of a bath tube. The confetti cannons are at the top of the firehouse.

    Of the 70 plus children that have been baptized thus far in 2006, only three have been baptized in the children's area, where this little fire truck resides. The other children have been baptized in the sanctuary, as is the normal practice.

    Of the three who were baptized in the children's area, their parents were present, and were counseled just like the other children. My source says the confetti cannons haven’t been fired during a baptism in a while.

    It is important to note, that a new children's area will open June 4th and it does not have a baptismal. If anyone has any more information about this subject, let us know.

    One has to wonder if the children baptized could become IMB missionaries in the future, or if they would have to be rebaptized in the church's sanctuary?


    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/13/2006 11:44:00 AM

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    Two men, two different approaches

    We found the links to the two statements at SBC OUTPOST

    In our federal government, it is illegal for elected officials to use their taxpayer-funded offices for political purposes. They can't campaign or endorse candidates for a very simple reason, taxes are meant to be used for the functions of government, and not to encourage or assist in the election of a candidate.

    This principle has application for our convention.

    Yesterday, Paige Patterson endorsed Ronnie Floyd over the Southwestern Website; clearly using his office and position for a political purpose. While our Cooperative Program dollars are not taxes they are given to do support the functions of the convention, not politics. As we see it, Dr. Patterson is using CP dollars when he endorsed a candidate for an SBC office, while using a method (a seminary Web site) that is supported by offerings of Southern Baptists who may not support the same candidate. You might say "no big deal," but we think it is. We think there ought to be a higher standard. Like the one set by Morris Chapman

    On the same day Patterson endorsed Dr. Floyd, Chapman released a statement entitled "Diminishing Returns?" in which he detailed his code of conduct related to his CP supported position and SBC politics.

    "When I accepted the invitation of the SBC Executive Committee to become its chief executive officer, I agreed never to endorse or campaign for a candidate running for state and national political office. Some of the same reasons for making this pledge would apply to the election of state and national offices within a religious body. Why then should I publicly endorse or nominate a candidate for an elected office in the Southern Baptist Convention? Southern Baptists have well demonstrated godly wisdom through the years and the ability to sense the gentle nudge of God's Holy Spirit in their decisions. What more is needed?"

    We think Chapman's example, not Patterson's, should be the rule for the SBC.




    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/13/2006 09:55:00 AM

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    A few hours later, it was a bad idea!

    Not that you would ever do it, but trust me a Vidalia Onion does not make a good midnight snack. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/13/2006 08:29:00 AM

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    Thursday, May 11, 2006

    Why Wade Burleson Would Make
    an Excellent SBC President





    Part Martin Luther....



    Part Charles Spurgeon....




    There are many reasons why Wade Burleson would make an excellent president of our convention: Scripture is his only foundation; when others lash out in anger, he responds with grace; he wants Baptists to me missional; he believes in engaging in the culture, not retreating from it; he would encourage cooperation; his spirit of forgiveness would UNIFY -- yes you read that right -- UNIFY our convention.

    Read Wade's answers to questions about the state of the SBC and its future.


    Wade said on his blog, that he has asked another pastor in our convention to seek for the convention's top spot (this is the 5th or 6th person he has asked to run for the presidency). If this person runs, Wade said that he wouldn't allow his name to be put into nomination. It is with only the best intentions that we hope this other man declines Wade's request. We feel confident that Wade has been prepared to lead our convention and suspect that if he doesn't lead it now, he will in the near future.








    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/11/2006 10:34:00 PM

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    Not everyone agrees that Ronnie Floyd is God's chosen man!



    "Dismal" CP support should invalidate Floyd for SBC president

    Point of View
    By MICHAEL PETTY

    Special to Florida Baptist Witness Published May 11, 2006
    (Editor's note: This commentary will appear in the May 18 print edition and was posted early because of potential interest in the subject matter.)

    Hearing the news that Ronnie Floyd will be nominated for president of the Southern Baptist Convention in Greensboro next month first brought acceptance and pleasure -- that is, until I read of his dismal record of cooperation through the Cooperative Program.

    Read the full Commentary

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/11/2006 09:57:00 PM

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    It sounds like Ronnie understands the weight of task that is ahead and that while he canceled on Tad, he will be giving interviews in the future. I understand if he wants to be totally briefed before he goes out and comments on matters related to SBC policy. He has asked for our prayers and that is what he will receive.

    We have had fun with Ronnie, but we do wish him the best and pray that God would give him the grace and strength he needs. We also want to pray for his family. Speaking of family, that Josh was one heck of a quarterback and is an excellent coach. GO SAINTS!


    From Ronnie Floyd's blog....


    Wisdom

    Wisdom is seeing life from God's perspective. One of the great reasons we read God's Word is because from it, we gain wisdom for life. We gain the insight to gain the Christ-minded model.

    You know what my previous announcement was concerning be nominated for the office of President of the Southern Baptist Convention. Some would say, “Ronnie, agreeing to do that indicates your wisdom is very lacking.� Well, that may prove to be true. However, I am only permitting it for one reason alone. The Lord wants me to go that far and only He knows if it will go farther.

    In that context, pray for me to have wisdom. I realize that is such a “trite� request in our Christian nomenclature, but I am very serious. I am not sure I have needed wisdom any more than these days.

    I need wisdom in each interview I do. This serves as an opportunity to get the message of Jesus out before others in a positive way. As well, in the present church and SBC challenges, the questions so many times are win-lose. It does not matter how they are answered, to some you are on the wrong side of the argument.

    I need wisdom to deal with those who are evaluating our church and me. I have never been afraid of sensible debate or fearful of dealing with the issues of life, church, and even the SBC. Yet, there is a time, place, and way to do it.

    I need wisdom in the allocation of my time. I am trying to finish up my book, lead this fellowship, correspond with members, learn about SBC issues in case I am asked to go on the trip as President, and normal life matters. Pray for me to have God’s wisdom in these things. I need the heartbeat of God and the mind of Christ in all of them.

    My niece Kristy and her husband Rodney had a little baby girl this morning…she was just over 4 lbs. Pray for little Maci, as she is three weeks premature. They are in the Houston area of Texas. God has answered your prayer for my Mom’s house to sell. She has a strong contract on it and will close very soon…so pray that all goes to the end. She and Linda will rent a home until we determine their long-term housing issues.

    Peyton came over last night by himself…well, Kate brought him by and left him with us for a while. My, how he has advanced….he is filling the baby bed! Gigi dominated him as usual! Speaking of Gigi (Jeana, my wife) she has a birthday on Saturday. May is like Christmas in our family again. Her birthday is May 13, Mother’s Day is Sunday, and Friday, May 12 is Josh’s birthday!

    I told you a moment ago: life matters go on….

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/11/2006 09:15:00 AM

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    Wednesday, May 10, 2006

    New-Narrow

    Who wins when the parameters of Baptist Cooperation are narrowed? It's a question we are pondering. Any ideas?

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/10/2006 09:04:00 PM

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    Q&A

    Reader: Why do you refer to Dr. Ronnie Floyd as "Armani Ronnie? Isn't that a cut-down?"

    ARKRZRBPTS: Certainly you are familiar with famed Italian clothing designer Giorgio Armani.He makes beautiful and expensive clothing. Dr. Floyd is known for his great fashion sense, flashy couture, and expensive taste. So the short of it is Armani and Ronnie rhyme and they just fit. We didn't invent the name, it's been around a while.

    We mean him no disrespect, in fact we think he is a cool guy. Heck, he might make a dandy SBC president. So with a spirit of fun and several e-mail requests, we repost this Photoshoped pic in honor of Dr. Floyd, who could possibly be the flashiest SBC president in history. Don't you know he will do well on the Larry King Show!








    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/10/2006 10:40:00 AM

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    Tuesday, May 09, 2006

    More from the ABP...
    NAMB cancels controversial contracts in effort to restore 'Baptist confidence'

    JERSEY CITY, N.J. (ABP) -- The North American Mission Board has canceled four controversial contracts initiated by former president Bob Reccord that critics said were wasting Southern Baptist missions money.

    The cancellations, which reportedly will save millions of dollars, were among the steps reported to trustees May 2 in an attempt to rebuild the agency's credibility after Reccord resigned under pressure April 17.

    During their recent meeting, trustees canceled consulting contracts with two public relations firms, ended NAMB's relationship with 316 Networks to sell broadband services to churches, and bought out of the contract for use of a private jet.

    “We are not flying that plane anymore," Carlos Ferrer, interim chief operating officer, told trustees May 2, reflecting criticism directed at NAMB over the arrangement. "I want to be sure all of our supporters hear that loud and clear. We are not flying that plane anymore.�

    Read the rest of the story


    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/09/2006 10:27:00 PM

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    From ABP...
    IMB trustee Burleson attacked again, but accuser may be violating new policy

    ENID, Okla. (ABP) -- In what could lead to another attempt to remove trustee Wade Burleson from the International Mission Board, a fellow trustee of the Southern Baptist agency is publicly criticizing Burleson for his views on baptism, alcohol and other subjects.

    Fellow Oklahoma pastor Winston Curtis of Highland Park Baptist Church in Duncan has written an open letter to Wade Burleson, asking him to meet with Curtis and trustee leaders to discuss Curtis' "concerns."

    In January, Burleson's fellow trustees asked the Southern Baptist Convention to remove him from the board for "broken trust" apparently related to statements on Burleson's weblog. That request -- which could have produced the first removal of a trustee in SBC history -- was rescinded by trustees March 22. But they created new guidelines prohibiting trustee criticism of the board.

    Curtis' letter and Burleson's response to it were posted May 4 on Burleson's Internet blog, www.wadeburleson.com. Burleson, pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church in Enid, Okla., has been mentioned as a possible candidate for SBC president next month.


    Read the full story here


    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/09/2006 09:34:00 AM

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    Monday, May 08, 2006

    Kids Ministry at First Church Springdale.
    You have to watch the video to receive the full treatment.





    There has been a lot of talk in relation to First Church Springdale's "fire engine-shaped baptistery" complete with "confetti cannons." Click here to see the video presentation of FBC Springdale's Childrens' Ministry. This brings new meaning to Paul's words:

    1 Corinthians 9:22 (English Standard Version)

    22To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.



    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/08/2006 08:41:00 PM

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    We are testing colors and some new designs (you haven't seen those yet). This color is going out to all the ladies, including our favorite religion reporter for a major Arkansas newspaper.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/08/2006 01:14:00 PM

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    Question of the Day...

    This comes to us from a reader:
    "Should pastors disclose to their congregations the extra income they earn from speaking engagements, revival meetings, books and/or television programs?"

    --We say only if that additional income is resulting from the ministry work done at the church or if that work that generates additional income aided by the tithes and offerings from church members.



    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/08/2006 06:53:00 AM

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    This post is from Tad Thompson's blog

    Dr. Ronnie Floyd will be Nominated for President of SBC by Johnny Hunt

    This is a very interesting move by those in SBC power politics. I will give you my theory here and will try and get an interview with Dr. Floyd this week since he is in my backyard. I believe this is an attempt to appease some younger leaders, but maybe not those leaders in the same vein as in the Memphis Declaration. Dr. Floyd is innovative, he is a visionary, he has a staunch commitment to the preaching of truth. I promise you one thing, I will not disparage him here on this blog and I challenge all bloggers not to say something critical on their blogs without voicing your concerns to him face to face.

    This is one of the concerns that I have about the blogging movement - many are quick to bash, as if it is doesn't matter to their witness. Everything, event dissent or concern must be done with a spirit of humility. I have to say that I am very dissapointed in many of the comments already being posted out there. Listen, I have to admit that the press release left much to be desired and its contents go to the heart of the issue at hand, but all of the sarcasm and cutting remarks just are not right.

    We also must remember that Dr. Floyd is real person, a brother in Christ, a co-laborer for the gospel. Regardless of our opinions, he deserves what every fellow human being deserves, to be treated as we would want to be treated. The group that signed the Memphis declaration had a great experience and came away with a pretty good document - but that documents contents could be ruined by the content in our blogs.

    It is also important to remember that the Memphis Declaration is not representative of the vast majority of the convention and if we are truly about a spirit of cooperation, maybe we need to be at a position to sit and have influence at the table when given the opportunity. I believe that Dr. Floyd is the kind of leader that will give younger pastors a voice in the convention.

    I hope that I will have the opportunity to interview him this week- to see what he has to say to younger leaders who have many concerns about the direction of the convention.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/08/2006 06:39:00 AM

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    From yesterday's New York Times Magazine...


    A growing number of conservatives see birth control as part of an ailing culture that overemphasizes sex and devalues human life. Is this the beginning of the next culture war?

    Read the full article here.


    We would be interested in your thoughts.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/08/2006 06:36:00 AM

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    Sunday, May 07, 2006

    Ronnie Floyd announced today that he
    is going to be nominated for SBC President!


    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/07/2006 07:19:00 PM

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    If you want Glitz, Glamour and a Megachurch SBC President, then Ronnie Floyd is your man.

    Here is Ronnie Floydwith his family: It appears he is wearing a spandex t-shirt with his jeans. (The editors here couldn't pull it off) This is the new cross at his other church, The Church at Pinnacle Hills in Rogers, Arkansas.

    Now we think this is a little much. YES, THOSE ARE MEN IN THE BUCKET ATTACHED TO THE CRANE! One has to wonder if building a huge cross with God's money is good stewardship. If you are trying to build a megachurch, then we suppose this is excellent stewardship.

    We think Ronnie Floyd is a good man even a great man, whose life is filled with some the trapping that come from being in a church that is bubbling over with prosperity. He has his good points. A lot of people have come to know Christ at his church.

    His church is going to supply the Arkansas Razorbacks with the nation's top high school quarterback this fall. In 2004, he drew the line on the presidential election by telling his churches to VOTE GOD!

    He will have two huge facilities in neighboring towns. Will this quickly become the new standard for megachurches? "We don't want one campus we need TWO!" Much of the growth experienced by First Church, Springdale and The Church at pinnacle Hills is due to the enormous population growth in Northwest Arkansas. The "if you build it they will come" approach has worked and is working for them.

    That being said, Ronnie Floyd has done a lot of wonderful things for the KINGDOM, but is he really the future of our convention?


    We want a leader whose church has grown because the word of God is exposited every Sunday; whose church not only grows in numbers, but whose people have grown deeper in their walks with God. Is he the right man?

    We think that glitz, glamour and telegenics should not be the hallmark of our leadership there must be more. We look forward to hearing his vision for the SBC. We know that the SBC needs a confident leader who exudes grace when he speaks and exposites sound theology when he preaches; who can speak with authority, yet be humble when the cameras are rolling.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/07/2006 10:03:00 AM

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