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    Saturday, May 20, 2006

    Updated: SBC Bloggers according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

    ADG religion reporter Laura Lynn Brown does a good job of lifting the hood on this new trend. If you read the whole piece you'll see that not everyone is happy about blogging (mainly Ronnie Floyd).

    We do wonder who the ADG art department modeled their blogging preacher after. It's not Wade or Ronnie and we've never see Marty or Art. Can anyone shed any light on this? I do appreciate them getting the logo of the Southern Baptist Convention right, although it is in need of some major updating. (this gives us an idea.)

    Piece of Mind
    Web logs may not be the gospel truth, but they're gaining popularity as a source of information.


    The SBC Outpost sounds like a dusty Western general store where passersby can tie up their horses, get a drink and some provisions and ask about the latest news or gossip. In a way, that's what happens at this outpost. But the transportation is a computer and Internet connection, not a horse. The site purveys news, commentary and shootin' from the hip on Southern Baptist Convention life, and the conversation is lively as the nation's largest Protestant denomination nears its annual convention June 13-14 in Greensboro, N.C.

    The Rev. Marty Duren, a Georgia minister, started the blog -- short for Web log, a sort of online journal -- in April 2005. He chose the name partly because his first three choices were already taken. Southern Baptists who read blogs often mention the SBC Outpost (sbcoutpost.blogspot.com) first when they list the ones they check regularly. That's where many Baptists first learned that the Rev. Ronnie Floyd of First Baptist Church in Springdale said he would accept nomination as president of the convention at their annual meeting.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/20/2006 02:03:00 PM

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    Dr. Ronnie Floyd explains his church's gifts to the Cooperative Program

    This is from Ronnie Floyd's blog Between Sundays under his post entitled Why I Am Permitting Myself To Be Nominated As The President of The Southern Baptist Convention This was Ronnie Floyd's No. 4 reason he cites:

    I believe in our cooperative effort through the Cooperative Program of the SBC, which our church has given over $3.4 million to over the last 10 years for the mission causes of our denomination. In fact, let me state what has happened over the past five years and is happening this year as well: we have increased our Cooperative Program gifts 8% annually over the past five years and are doing so in our present budget this year. This 8% increase represents the amount of both Cooperative Program allocation areas; to Arkansas ($32,000) and to SBC in Nashville ($189,000) which totals $221,000 towards the Cooperative Program. With other SBC allocations, this combines to total $489,000 last year. This 8% increase to the Cooperative Program has happened while we planned and are now in the final stages of construction on two major building projects and expansions that are taking place on both campuses at a cost of $38.5 million. We are a church that is very committed to the Cooperative Program and believe in the cooperative effort to share the Good News of Jesus globally.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/20/2006 11:33:00 AM

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    When that Roe comes tumblin' down

    We don't agree with many of Jeffery Rosen's conclusions drawn in relation what a post-Roe America will look like in this month's cover story in Atlantic entitled The Day After Roe. It is a good piece and it begins to discuss, in an honest way, what would exisit in terms of abortion should if the U.S. Supreme Court strike Roe down.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/20/2006 08:28:00 AM

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    We're off to see the Da Vinci Code (Friday, 9:45 p.m.)

    (the morning after):

    Okay, we fell asleep during part of the movie, but it was so darn slow. We had really hoped that this would have been an exquisite cinematic work, because we like to be entertained when we spend 8 bucks for a ticket 9 bucks for a large Coke and Nachos, but this wasn't a good movie.

    To all my Christian brothers and sisters who are up in arms about the Da Vinci Code, don't be. This was a slow movie that leaves moviegoers languishing in their seats looking at their watches. When it finally takes off, it come across like the director was grasping for straws. Don't get us wrong, there were some great action scenes and wonderful cinematography. Ian McKellen was pretty good, although we perfer him as Gandalf and Magneto.

    Even some of the pagan-looking ilk, who had gotten in line two hours early to get the first seats, were overheard talking about how weak the movie was while walking out of the theater.

    We are going to pick up the book today in hopes of being entertained.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/20/2006 06:05:00 AM

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    Friday, May 19, 2006

    A true leader
    Editorial note: Please don't project any anger into our words.

    For all you people -- you know who you are, you visit our blog often -- who said that Wade Burleson allowing his name to be submitted in nomination for the SBC presidency was just the capstone to a grand political scheme that began with his questioning of the IMB policies last year: SHAME ON YOU! SHAME ON YOU! SHAME ON YOU!

    His most recent post from his blog reinforces the fact that he has always stood on principle and is not a political player.

    We knew very little about Wade Burleson last year. A friend pointed us to his blog in December. After reading his straightforward and thoughtful commentaries, we appreciated his heart and began to agree with his positions on the IMB policies and his concern for the SBC.

    At the same time, we also began listening to his sermons, most of which are online. (We recommend starting with Romans) For months, we have spent numerous early morning hours listening to Wade, growing spiritually while sitting under his preaching and teaching via laptop. We would be hard-pressed to find a more genuine and heartfelt expositor of the word of God in our convention today.

    We have grown to love our brother in Christ. We stand with him and support his efforts to insure that the SBC is an open and transparent organization, comprised of diverse people who are unified behind the convention’s cooperative efforts to expand the Kingdom.

    Wade's leadership, much of which at times has come out one blog post at a time, has helped to inspire others to dream big for the SBC. We are all indebted to him for his gracious leadership. (Some of you don't realize it yet, but you will:)

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/19/2006 05:55:00 PM

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    The Church of Freemasonry

    Arkansas Democrat-Gazette/RICK McFARLAND
    From the Culture Desk...
    Revisiting an Old Issue
    If you perused the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette yesterday, you might have noticed a big story on page one of the Style section on Freemasonry in Arkansas. [Click here to read it].
    Some quotes:
    We’re also seeing interest from baby boomers now in their 50s or early 60s, who are looking for balance in their lives after 30 years of constantly striving at work.
    Masons like to say, “We take good men and make them better.�
    ...the bedrock requirement to join is a belief in a supreme being and the immortality of the soul. The only component of modern Freemasonry that requires a specifically Christian faith is the Masonic Knights Templar. There are Jewish Masons in Arkansas and elsewhere. Muslims, Hindus and members of other religions are also eligible.
    “I love the ritual,� says Graham. “Some of it is published and some is esoteric — unwritten and handed down by word of mouth. The ritual has been passed down for centuries, and it is very meaningful. It impresses on your mind important moral truths and virtues, like your duty to God and fellow men, and the importance of charity and helping others. It’s really about self-improvement, and that’s the essence of Freemasonry.�

    Freemasonry is essentially a church without a faith. I have heard of lodge meetings where they have a bulletin, a songleader, they take up a collection, and they mimmick religious rituals. For many non-believers, it is their religion. For believing members, it is a distraction from the true Church.

    Notice the statements above. Such things are empty outside of the tenets of Christianity. The place to go for balance, for making men better, for worshiping one God, for impressing The Truth on your mind is the Church, not the Lodge.

    When I was growing up, I remember a stir in the Southern Baptist Convention over Freemasonry. One of the deacons in our church was a 33rd-degree Mason. I believe several others were members as well. I never quite understood it. Still don't.

    To be clear, I certainly have no problem with fraternal socializing, but the practices and symbology of the Masons resemble those of the occult. Such things are dangerous for a believer and are warned against. Therefore, I am of the belief that Christians should not be associated with such an organization.

    What do you think? Any thoughts from readers?


    Additional Reading:

    Click here to read the 1993 SBC Report on Freemasonry

    Click here to read the NAMB's bulletin - "A Closer Look at Freemasonry"

    Click here to see the NAMB's Comparison Chart on Freemasonry & Christianity

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/19/2006 03:47:00 PM

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    Thursday, May 18, 2006

    From the Baptist Press...

    State exec urges CP pres. for SBC; 2 more seminary presidents endorse Floyd; Burleson assures 2-man race

    May 18, 2006
    By Staff
    Baptist Press

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP) Oklahoma Baptists' top leader has called for Southern Baptists to elect a president who has "demonstrated his wholehearted support" for the Cooperative Program, the channel by which Southern Baptists support state, national and international missions and ministry

    Anthony Jordan, executive director of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma, led a task force that has called on Southern Baptists to practice the biblical tithe. Among the task force’s various recommendations: the election of "state and national convention officers whose churches give at least 10 percent of their undesignated receipts through the Cooperative Program."

    The task force report was adopted by the executives of the state Baptist conventions and the SBC Executive Committee in February.

    Read More

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    Does anyone know if wireless Internet will be available in the conventional area in Greensboro? If possible, I would like to blog live from the convention floor.

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    Wednesday, May 17, 2006

    My boy Taylor is in the American Idol finals!!!

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    Wade "would" be willing!

    This from his blog tonight

    My Intentions Regarding the Presidential Nomination

    Earlier today someone asked a question in the comment section that I felt needed an answer. There are a gowing number of people who are emailing me or calling me asking similar questions so I am choosing to post my answer so others may fully understand my position on allowing my name to be nominated for President of the SBC.

    The question:

    "(I and) several others who read your blog daily are of the unanimous opinion that you seem to be dodging the question that is lurking like the elephant in the room that nobody wants to admit is there: Are you still willing to be nominated yourself--which you have already, in print, inferred in pretty clear terms?

    My answer:

    Unless a candidate arises that is willing to address the issues that I, and others, have articulated these last few months, I would allow my name to be nominated.

    But since there are four weeks until the convention, there is no need for me to announce I'm running, because I'm not running. I would, at that time, be ready to be nominated. I would, at that time, be willing to be nominated. But that time is not yet here. Further, when that time comes (the convention), if another candidate has arisen that I believe will address the issues our convention faces, I would support him and choose not to allow my name to be nominated.

    There is a difference between saying, "I am willing to be nominated for President" to "I would be willing to be nominated for President." The first is a statement of the present. The latter is a statement regarding the future.

    Again, the contigency for me is that no other person arises who, in my opinion, is ready and willing to address the issues that have been articulated by many in these last few months. Obviously there are many who believe in Ronnie Floyd's candidacy and will support him for President of the SBC. But there are others who would like to see some reform in the way we conduct business in the SBC, and though they may not vote for Ronnie, every one of us should always maintain a Christian spirit of grace and charity toward one another.

    I simply wish to continue discussing the issues on my blog. I prefer to continue doing what I believe I have been called to do to help stop the narrowing of the parameters of cooperation in the SBC. The other matters are best left in the Lord's hands and with the people of the SBC --- at the appropriate time.

    I realize this may be a different approach than some take, and not that they are wrong, and I'm right. It's just that I may view things a little differently than most.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/17/2006 05:46:00 PM

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    Not to be out done. And now, Ladies and Gentleman, America's leading evangelical intellectual...Al Mohler! (Does this also mean Dr. Russ Moore is on board?)

    Dear Ronnie:

    Congratulations upon the news of your nomination to serve as president of the Southern Baptist Convention. I am greatly encouraged by this news, and I want you to know of my eager support for you as the elected leader of our convention. I am thankful for your leadership, your deep personal investment in the life and work of the Southern Baptist Convention, and your friendship to me and to Southern Seminary through so many years.

    I am very thankful that we had the opportunity of working together on the Program and Structure Study Committee when we spent so many months together considering the future shape of the Southern Baptist Convention. At that time, I was simply amazed that a pastor serving such a large church would give so much of his time to the intricacies of developing this strategic plan and vision for the future of our denomination. We spent so many hours together in that process and it was largely through that experience that I came to know of your deep love for Southern Baptists, your incredible organizational ability, and your leadership vision.

    You have been a great friend to me and to Southern Seminary as we have brought this seminary back to full accountability to the Southern Baptist Convention. Your stalwart friendship and enthusiastic support has meant so much to me and to the future of this institution.

    Thank you for your service as chairman of the Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention and for your committed leadership throughout every level of our denomination. You have never said no to Southern Baptists when duty has called, and I deeply appreciate your willingness to serve as President of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    I pray that God will bless you, guide you, and encourage you at every stage along this path. Please call me if I can be of assistance in any way.

    R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/17/2006 02:42:00 PM

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    Tuesday, May 16, 2006

    Wade Burleson answers the following questions from the SB TEXAN:

    QUESTION: If you are nominated to be the next president of the SBC, will you accept the nomination?

    QUESTION: What's driving the concern by a lot of younger pastors in thinking the local church has lost its significance within the denomination?

    QUESTION: Are we getting to the point where strategizing over the presidential election is no longer needed?

    QUESTION: By what means might trustees be drawn from more churches that previously had no members serving on SBC entities?

    QUESTION: What about the current denomination is outdated?

    QUESTION: What about the conservative resurgence has yielded good fruit and where do you still see problems?

    QUESTION: How must the denomination become more relevant just as local churches seek to present the gospel in relevant ways to new generations?

    QUESTION: On the local level, for instance, how have you changed the way missions, evangelism, and discipleship is accomplished without sacrificing doctrinal integrity?

    QUESTION: How does a local church evaluate which ministries to support directly—even when they to some degree duplicate existing work of the denomination—and preferring to cooperatively fund other priorities?

    QUESTION: Is the Cooperative Program an outdated denominational means of promoting and funding missions?

    QUESTION: You haven’t given up on it?

    QUESTION: Is there an appropriate percentage of undesignated receipts that churches ought to strive to give to CP?

    QUESTION: There are differences of opinion as to what will bring spiritual renewal—from old school evangelists calling for revival meetings to Reformed churches expressing concern at ignoring an unregenerate membership. What is the meaningful method of spiritual renewal?

    Read his answers here.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/16/2006 10:09:00 PM

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    We don't know Jim Shaver, but we really like this post from his blog:

    Ten Top Reasons Why Calvinism is Spreading in the SBC

    I'm sure there will be much disagreement over the order but here they are as I see them.

    10. The Tireless Efforts of the Founders Ministries and those associated with it.
    9. Southern Baptists are reading more Baptist History.
    8. More Willingness among SBC Pastors/Teachers to cross SBC lines to hear "dynamic preachers and teachers".
    7. Proliferation of online sermons by SBC Calvinists
    6. Calvinistic Web Sites and Blogging
    5. Inadequate treatment by SBC Professors openly opposed
    4. Unwillingness of SBC Leaders to model and promote church discipline
    3. Frustration with 60% failure rate of SBC evangelistic emphasis
    2. More Calvinistic Professors at SBC Seminaries
    1. Anti-Calvinistic rhetoric by "leading" SBC Pastors

    Number 10 - The Tireless Efforts of the Founders Ministries and those associated with it.

    What can I say? Had not those seven men met in Memphis in 1983 and shared their common concerns and vision I might not even be writing this today as a Southern Baptist. The leadership that Tom Ascol and others have provided through the years since that humble beginning has been an encouragment to all of us Southern Baptists who embrace the Doctrines of Grace.

    Number 9 - Southern Baptists are reading more Baptist History.

    When thinking Southern Baptists look at the historic Baptist Confessions and look at the Articles of Faith of almost all Southern Baptist Churches in this country that existed before the SBC was organized in 1845, they realize they are holding in their hands evidences of a strong Calvinistic heritage.

    Number 8 - More Willingness among SBC Pastors/Teachers to cross SBC lines to hear "dynamic preachers and teachers" like R. C. Sproul, John Piper, John MacArthur, Ligon Duncan, C.J. Mahaney and others. What more needs to be said?

    Number 7 - Remember back when a sermon tape by an SBC Calvinist was as rare as hens' teeth and you guarded it so carefully because you didn't know if you could ever replace it or not? Not anymore. Any SBC Calvinist can post his sermons online so we can all listen and be encouraged to our hearts' content.

    Number 6 - Calvinistic Web Sites and Blogging

    I've learned more theology and more Baptist history since I've plugged into the internet than I ever did in seminary or during that period I call the "dark ages" between seminary graduation and the advent of the web. I've also had more fellowship and made more friends through the web than I ever thought possible.

    Number 5 - Inadequate treatment by SBC Professors openly opposed to Calvinism

    Some obviously must feel like they have to say something so they say things that reveal a total lack of or a woefully inadequate understanding of the position of most SBC Calvinists. It only reinforces what many of us suspected was true during our seminary days. These are dedicated men and are faithful servants, for the most part, but they are certainly not infallible.

    Number 4 - Unwillingness of SBC Leaders to model and promote church discipline

    I don't believe I've ever heard a SBC mega-church pastor suggest that he needed to prune his church's membership roll, and these are the guys we keep electing President of the SBC every year. We know we have a problem in SBC Churches with unregenerate and inactive church members showing up to vote at controversial business meetings. Our leadership has not adequately addressed these issues but leading SBC Calvinists have.

    Number 3 - Frustration with 60% failure rate of SBC evangelistic emphasis

    Southern Baptist pastors are simply tired of the same old evangelistic results regardless of whether you call it F.A.I.T.H. or CWT or EE. When you get the same old results - 60% failure rate - campaign after campaign - then it becomes apparent that something is broken.

    Number 2 - More Calvinistic Professors at SBC Seminaries

    May their tribe increase. I believe this is a providential thing - don't you?

    Number 1 - Anti-Calvinistic rhetoric by "leading" SBC Pastors

    What happens when a well known SBC personality speaks out for something or against something so controversial as Calvinism? Ears perk up all over the SBC. Questions are asked. Inquiries are made, and the end result is that more and more Southern Baptists examine the Doctrines of Grace and some are persuaded they are true.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/16/2006 04:23:00 PM

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    Monday, May 15, 2006

    Is the cart before the horse with Ronnie Floyd?

    Our contacts who run in highfalutin SBC circles admit that Dr. Ronnie Floyd's tiny percentage contribution to the Cooperative Program may have irreparably damaged his presidential candidacy.

    Imagine, if you will, the pastor from Thumbsuck, Alabama, whose church sacrifices to give 3, 5, 7 or 10 percent of their offerings to the Cooperative Program voting for Ronnie Floyd. In the words of Dana Carvey imitating George H.W. Bush, "Not gonna do it!"

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/15/2006 05:05:00 PM

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    From the Baptist Press...
    Calif. Senate passes 'gay history' textbook bill, sends to assembly; governor silent
    May 12, 2006
    By Staff
    Baptist Press

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (BP)--A landmark bill that would require public school textbooks in California to include "gay history" passed the California Senate May 11 by a mostly party-line vote of 22-15, and now heads to the Assembly.

    The bill, S.B. 1437, would mandate that textbooks include "the contributions of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender to the total development of California and the United States." It would also prevent teachers from speaking "adversely" about homosexuality.

    California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has not taken a public position on the bill.

    Read the rest of the article.

    posted by Arkansas Razorbaptist at 5/15/2006 09:41:00 AM

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    This from the New York Times...
    Conservative Christians Criticize Republicans

    WASHINGTON, May 13--Some of President Bush's most influential conservative Christian allies are becoming openly critical of the White House and Republicans in Congress, warning that they will withhold their support in the midterm elections unless Congress does more to oppose same-sex marriage, obscenity and abortion.

    "There is a growing feeling among conservatives that the only way to cure the problem is for Republicans to lose the Congressional elections this fall," said Richard Viguerie, a conservative direct-mail pioneer.

    Mr. Viguerie also cited dissatisfaction with government spending, the war in Iraq and the immigration-policy debate, which Mr. Bush is scheduled to address in a televised speech on Monday night.

    "I can't tell you how much anger there is at the Republican leadership," Mr. Viguerie said. "I have never seen anything like it."

    In the last several weeks, Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most influential Christian conservatives, has publicly accused Republican leaders of betraying the social conservatives who helped elect them in 2004. He has also warned in private meetings with about a dozen of the top Republicans in Washington that he may turn critic this fall unless the party delivers on conservative goals.

    And at a meeting in Northern Virginia this weekend of the Council for National Policy, an alliance of the most prominent Christian conservatives, several participants said sentiment toward the White House and Republicans in Congress had deteriorated sharply since the 2004 elections.

    Read the full article

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